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Mark B
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application for the second sequence of Niseishi/Nijushiho

Hi all , I recently shared one possible application for the opening sequence from Niseishi (there are several others in my study) so I thought I'd share one possible option for the second sequence of the kata (once again there are several other options for this sequence).

All the best

Mark

Niseishi/Nijushiho Bunkai Oyho

rshively
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watched your video, quite good. I'm adding Tony Annesi's variations to the nijushiho & niseishi kata.

Another version is that the kick is a setup for a leg sweep as in judo.

Of course, the close quarter grabs are an excellent setup for a judo based choke using the Gi as a garrotte against his throat, or a means of escaping a frontal choke

gazrichards
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This is my take on it  from about 32 secs on in the video, similar theory to Mark but we use the angle of the kata a little more and actually Mark, given the height differance between you and the attacker the elbow strike to the arm or body may work cleaner for you!

Mark B
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I have to agree with Andy there. Some nice stuff there in your interpretations Gazrichards. Regarding the elbow strike there's a couple of points. My partner on the clip, whilst very competent, is a fairly new student so I applied Hikite and controlling motions with care. I also produced the clip as a LEARNING aide , so the entire sequence is slow and methodical. One more point that's worth considering is the kick in the sequence. Done right that will blast the opponents base , bringing the man down. The spring loaded motion of the Age Uke also provides an ideal setup for Age Empi , once again only demonstrated with extreme control. Also at the beginning of the sequence the double palm strike to the ears cannot be underestimated , same with the forearm strike which makes up Yama Zuki, if applied correctly the following techniques are applied to a significantly weakened opponent. Thanks

gazrichards
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Sorry Mark if it sounded like I was trying to "put you right" on your Bunkai. This wasn't my intention at all. Your technique will work fine as demonstrated in the video and I use it that way regularly.

As with many Bunkai demos we are using a compliant target and there is far less resistance or fighting back from our partner and it's often important to realise and remember what we are trying to achieve in our Bunkai and that is effective karate/self defence! If we demo against a partner that just stands still without a reaction we are effectively just training in prearranged kumite  

The reason I use the side step aside because I am working on the assumption that someone holding with a double lapel grab has more sinister intentions than just staring into your eyes and thus by the time you raise a fist to them they will react either defensively or offensively. By side stepping we also are able to eliminate the effects of a push coming from the opponent and dropping into our stance gives us a strong base to resist any movement from. I will also add that my videos are meant as a learning tool to back up the stuff I teach in class  these Bunkai are not my only techniques or even my favourite but usually the ones that fitted best in the video angles we had at our disposal. I also try and include a mix of karate on karate for the newer students to the kata so they gain a feel for the technique and some movement through Bunkai.

Mark B
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Hi Gazrichards No offence taken. You're perfectly entitled to express your opinion either way , but thanks for straightening they out. I get the idea of shifting offline. My approach at the initial contact differs slightly. You're dead right - if someone grabs in the way demonstrated they're not likely to be just staring into my eyes which is where I base the justification to strike without delay. My hands are up. I mention on a Seisan clip that no Bunkai can work if your hands are in your pockets or inactive. Immediately on being seized I'm raising my hands (which should be already active in managing space and distance) to cover a potential headbutt before applying the double palm strike to the ears. That is a significant strike which could either end the situation right there , or momentarily freeze the guy. The rest of the sequence follows on from there. Thanks

gazrichards
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I'm finding your Bunkai quite interesting Mark. You and I have completely different body types with me being well over 6ft and slim and long limbed and well you...........not! It adds a different perspective to the Bunkai that I sometimes overlook.

I often find myself when I'm teaching, explaining that even though I can make the technique work it may be due to my size, height, limb length etc and have to try and figure out an alternative for the short ar5es in the class. Maybe now I can just watch your videos for tips ;)

Mark B
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I'm not certain how to interpret that Gazrichards !! I'll choose to assume it's meant respectfully and in good humour - for now ;-) You're right about differing body types, but that's applicable across the board. Limb length is an irrelevance to me. I and the karate I teach mean to close inside the effective range wherever possible, whether on the outside or the inside and karate is full of techniques to level the playing field , or tip the scales in the karatekas favour. Close quarter stamping kicks and sinking/spitting to drop body weight are very effective in most cases, alongside Hikite etc. I find tall , thin people relatively easy to shift , and their limbs can snap like twigs in winter :-) Most techniques should work regardless of height or weight. One that doesn't for me is any shoulder throw, because when I rotate and lift invariably their feet are still on the floor :-). I simply don't use that option and temper my karate accordingly, but karate should be personal anyway.