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diadicic's picture
Body slam's

I know it sport jiu jitsu and most of the video won't apply, but I am looking at it for and example of body slams. Start to look at around .53 you start to see how body slams can effect people. Some don't get knocked out but it definitely puts the guy on top in a more advantaged position.


Tau's picture

I'm in work so can't watch the video, but I can given you my general feelings as someone who is a pragmatic Karateka, pragmatic Jujitsuka and sports Jujitsuka (and UFC fan.)

They're banned in BJJ due to the danger element. On the rare occassion you see them in MMA they're usually devestating (and highly entertaining!) They're extremely difficult to pull off for a number of reasons, not least of which the strength involved. In the past I've pulled them off in defending arm bars. These days less so, partly because I'm not alllowed and partly because I train at a higher level and unless I get the arm bar defence right I'm more likely to get my own arm broken than break the hold!

Would I use them pragmatically? Never say never, but they'd be one of my tertiary skills. And you'd better be damned good at getting up afterwards because otherwise you'll find yourself held down and open for attack by third party(s)

Tau's picture

Watched the video. Seen it before. The whole point of it isn't so much body slams, more "how to get DQ'd."

The first thing that comes to mind is keeping context in mind. All that DQ's (consider the striking) are legal in self protection and would be legal in other competitions. The victim's tactics would change based on rule set and especially context.

I also refer you to Stephen Kesting:

Kevin73's picture

One thing that people tend to forget is that strength IS a technique. Slams like those in the video are a very common reaction for people not skilled in grappling to break loose.  It's also one of those things that many grapplers forget when they only grapple other grapplers in a sport's setting because it is not allowed.

I know others experiences may vary, but working in LE and corrections for almost 20 years, all of the "bear hugs" I have seen were preludes to a pick up and slam.  One of my big frustrations when people train bear hugs statically and never put it into context of a one on one confrontation and what the attacker is actually trying to accomplish (I will say that sometimes in a two or more on one situation a person may bear hug to hold the person in place for the others to attack and strike them).

Wastelander's picture

Well, when I took an MMA fight, I got slammed like this, twice:

My opponent was a wrestler, and while he was really good at holding me down, he really had no idea how to pass my guard or deal with submissions with anything other than strength. The floor of the cage isn't really padded much at all, but thankfully the slams didn't actually feel any worse than being thrown with o-soto-gari. If you watch the video of the fight, the whole crowd goes crazy for this, meanwhile my wife is saying "oh, don't worry about the slams, he's fine" :P

They can certainly be effective, particularly when used on people who aren't used to being thrown. Even when the person being slammed is used to being thrown, though, they can land with such force, at such an angle, or with such surprise, that they hit their head and lose consciousness. There is, of course, the very well-known example of Quinton "Rampage" Jackson slamming Ricardo Arona in PRIDE and knocking him out. A bit more recently, Sarah Kaufman knocked out Roxanne Modafferi with a slam. These are MMA examples, of course, where the floor has some give, although it isn't really padded. Slamming someone on a more solid surface, like concrete, would be a good way to but someone's head open, and possibly kill them, so that's a real concern.