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Iain Abernethy
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Submission Wrist-Locks while Ground Fighting

Here’s an interesting video on the use of wrist-locks when submission fighting on the ground. Not something you see that often.

All the best,

Iain

mike23
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From the experience I have with GJJ (Gracie Jiu-Jitsu), wrist locks are not taught until purple belt. This might be one reason people don't see them as often. Lots of people quit Jiu-jitsu before getting to purple. Also in the tournaments small joint locks are not legal until purble belt. This leads me to believe that many hobbiests don't stay long enough to learn them. 

Tau
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mike23 wrote:

From the experience I have with GJJ (Gracie Jiu-Jitsu), wrist locks are not taught until purple belt. This might be one reason people don't see them as often. Lots of people quit Jiu-jitsu before getting to purple. Also in the tournaments small joint locks are not legal until purble belt. This leads me to believe that many hobbiests don't stay long enough to learn them. 

Under IBJJ rules wrist locks are legal from blue belt onwards.

Stuart Akers
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My 1st Dan was in a wristlock based system, I love them but I'm well aware of their limitations.

The major 1 being they don't work on everyone - possibly 1/3 of people cannot understand why the rest of us are jumping around screaming in pain (roughly the same as nerve attacks and usually the same people).

They also are almost impossible to put on unless you can make the receiver compliant, you don't believe me?

You need to up your stress hormone level, 2 ways to do this:

a) Walk towards each other staring into each other's eyes - let the testosterone grow as you get closer, put one arm out and allow the other person to grab and start the lock, then resist.

b) My favourite, get your partner to slap you across the face (just hard enough to sting) and then they go for the lock - no way is going on.

 The way to get one on is to cause enough discomfort elsewhere take their mind off resistance, shin kick - whatever, then get the pain on and keep it on.

Zach Zinn
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I tend to agree Stewart..but I also think it depends what you mean by wristlocks. There are couple of (ultimately shoulder) locks that involve the wrist i've learned in Jujutsu that I think *might* be situationally practical when the person is holding an implement, and you are tussling for it..whereas with empty hand it would be kind of bizarre to even try, I can't even imagine a self-defense scenario where wristlocks would play a significant part. Usually I think of them as a thing that is meant for dealing with someone who is "semi compliant", or something that are more relevant once hands are holding things... which of course is why you find them originally in systems where the practitioners were acting as LEO.

mike23
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Maybe they should be labeled as wrist "breaks" not locks.

Iain Abernethy
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mike23 wrote:
Maybe they should be labeled as wrist "breaks" not locks.

Maybe. The only real difference between a “lock” and a “break” is a few more degrees of movement … but in this case we are talking about submissions so “lock” would seem to be the best term.

All the best,

Iain