Korean Forms

This forum is dedicated to an exchange of ideas relating to the practical application of the forms of Korean systems such as Taekwondo, Tang Soo Do etc. Increase your understanding of forms whilst helping others to do the same.

Finlay's picture

Pick n mix

Hello It is pretty much accepted by a lot of people, including me, that the taekwondo patterns are fragments of karate kata put in a different arrangement with some slightly different movement dynamics laid over them However, it also seems there was a move to have as many variations to techniques as seems possible. By this I means we have San magki or mountain block with both knife hand and forearm presenations We also have some instances if different stance for the same technique.

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Tornado kick practicality

Hi all. I struggle with the Tornado kick / jumping 360 roundhouse kick. It looks awesome when done well. And I have no doubt it generates huge power. But it consumes a lot of energy, and is slow. It's quite easy to just get out the way when you see it being set up. So I'm wondering if anyone can think of a scenario where it is actually practical. The only thing I can think of is as a training tool. It calls for a fair amount of coordination and timing, and these attributes are of course core to martial arts.

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ITF (Chang Hon) Karate connection

It's no secret that much of the ITF's patterns were heavily influnced by Karate kata, and in some cases, lifted wholesale with slight variations. Many have noted similarities between some patterns, but to my knowledge nobody has really dug into the details of how the various patterns relate to one another. This was my project over the summer, and I'm willing to share this with anyone who is interested.

https://changhon.wixsite.com/archive

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Kick catch takedowns and escapes from Joong-Gun

Hi everyone. I've been researching ITF forms for over 2.5 years now and have just completed an analysis of Joong-Gun that I'd like to share. I believe that the form is logically organized around the theme of kick catching. The form gives you four takedowns you can perform after catching a kick, as well as four escapes in case your kick is caught. Half the form is a counter to the other half of the form.

The organization is like so:

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Azato's picture

TSD/SBD/TKD back stance

Anyone have a good explaination for why the Korean styles have such a different back stance? My style has a 90%/10% from back to front leg weight distrobution with the heel raised on the front foot and only the toes and ball of the foot touching the ground. The explaination I was always given was that the weight distrobution is so drastic because it is a stance that you are meant to be able to kick quickly from. Fair enough, but as I've done more application work I've found that I always use a 'natural posture' more akin to the Shotokan 70%/30% weight distrobution.

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Tang Soo Do / Soo Bahk Do Hyung application

Apart from the hyungs we share with karate their is little information out their on the application of the Chil sung and Yuk Ro hyung. I see similarities in other systems when demnstrationing Bunkai but wanted to know what other clubs do to cover this topic.

Obviously each move has many different applications but I thought I would share a small drill and encourage the sharing of your experience so we may continue to learn.

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Finlay's picture

Jumping in the patterns

Does anyone have ideas on applications on the jumping in the patterns . I mean other than what is put forward in the mainstream which is generally about jumping over obstacles or kicks.

i am referring mainly to

The jumping back fist in Yul Gok,

could this be a response to your arm being caught and pulled?

The jump for height in Toi Gye , landing in a pressing x-block,

This could be a follow up to the previous motion, it being applied as a leg catch

or if you want to get fancy, jumping on to opponent for a standing anaconda :)

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Questions about old style (pre 20th century) patterns

I have a question about TKD patterns. They seem to come from several different sources and have several different sets of names, as TKD was created during the 1950s; some of them from shotokan karate, but some came from elsewhere. The geneology of TKD patterns makes karate look positively straightforward.

There's 3 different sets as far as I can see, the karate based ones (Pinans and Passai), the ITF based ones and the WTF ones. Then there are the local origin martial arts from which TKD originated;ssireum (sumo), subak and taekkyon and the chinese influence with gwonbeop.

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Finlay's picture

Vintage TKD

Came across this while at work, thought some people may find it interesting

Good and not so good here, but interesting to see the older stuff

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Are there applications in Korean derived forms?

In another thread recently started (Moving Backwards and Spinning 360 Degrees (or 180 with a head turn) in Original Koryo (and anywhere else).) the opening poster asked about applications from Original Koryo. In the very first reply Dave B said:

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