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Jason Lester
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Pinan / Heian Yondan Bunkai part 2

Hi all,

this is the second and follow up bunkai tactic to Pinan / Heian Yondan, the low double cross block. this is often looked upon as a block against a kick, however this is just one of my idea's and take on that movement.

I demonstrate the Shukokai and Shotokan version of how it is performed, also look out for the Rei (bow) defence against a double wrist grab.

While i am aware not everyone will like or agree with my idea/s, however i hope you enjoy watching and it may be of interest.

Kind regards,


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Hi Jason

Kudos for putting it up for criticisum... so here you go.

Firstly in shotokan, you don't actually make the initial downward handmove in Heian Yondan a definative move, the hands actually stay where they are and the body moves.. Now this may be stylistic..and there is nothing wrong with the application you show here. ..but it is worth noting..see Kanazawa's video 12 seconds in..

As others have said this is probably Oyo rather than bunkai...but I do not like your  xblock interpretation for the drill .  

... I think my problem with your chudan x-block application, is that the preceeding actions have to illicit a response that results in your opponents head/chest being at chudan height. As a drill you kind of want to emulate what you would do based on realistic HAOV. Train as you would fight... etc. First; you are making quite a big assumption that by striking your opponent in the face/temple/jaw they will drop to their knees setting up the x-block strike to the face or chest. Secondly punching to the chest with the "x-block" does not appear to me to be the most effective target for a start. Thirdly wouldn't a more obvious flow be that after the strike you take hold of the head or collar or neck, use that as the datum and then punch them with the other hand (repeat until they stop being a threat etc)? 

In my opinion, the opening hands in Heian/Pinan are an extension to the flinch reflex. Extending the "covering my head"  flinch either as a block strike combo (as you show) or as a capture that can lead to an arm lock (inside or outside) and then a finish (Punch to the back of the head - the xblock application). All require use of body shifting and using your full body weight to maximise the mechanical advantage.



ky0han's picture

Hi Jason,

thanks for sharing your ideas.

I am totally with Tom in this thing regarding especially the Gedan Juji Uke. I don't think that when you hit someone in the neck or face that he is dropping down. He would rather stumble backwards. And even if so a crossed fist blow is a weird kind of way to project kinetic energy into someone/something else. You give up the possibility for rapid impact while using both hands for impacting simultaniously. You are also loosing contact so there is no point of reference or a datum and the chance is high you miss the target if the opponent decides to fall to the side. The next thing is that when people get hit they try to protect themself. So they shrug shoulders, flinch and raise the arms. So with your method you would'nt get a clean shot in with no way to get rid of those obstacles.

Just food for thoughts.

Regards Holger

Jason Lester
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Hi guys, thank for your posts.

again there is no right or wrong, this is just showing another way this can be used, however, like anything there is no guarantee that it would work, however i would trust on using the double x block as a strike if i have downed my opponent than assuming that someone is going to use a Mae-Geri in the street, i doubt this would happen and no way would i use the cross block for that defence.

The strike to the chest was just an example shown on the course, this could be aimed to the side of the head etc. its also important to remember when doing bunkai drills you do not have to stick to the order that the kata runs in, so i may have dropped him with a punch first.

i am no way assuming that my attacker will drop once struck with the opening tactic shown above, however if struck hard enough this could very well happen, again nothing is ever guaranteed to work.

many thanks for your replys and hope you enjoyed watching regardless.

Kind regards,